Well I'm feeling pretty good again and have my old energy levels back, so I was very surprised when my oncologist told me on Thursday that I am now in menopause! I thought I would be feeling worse than this so I was pretty happy. Apart from no periods and very mild hot flushes, everything else is good. On the upside, my anaemia from heavy periods has gone. On the downside, I have a drawer full of super-sized tampons and condoms which will now go unused. My husband said I should sell them on ebay!! Haha. Just to ensure that the menopause is permanent, I'm having my ovaries removed in a couple of weeks then starting on Femara. After that, I'll be seeing my surgeon in March to discuss removing my other breast and having reconstruction. So much to decide on; I'm scared I'll have the reconstruction done then regret it because it will feel weird or look bad. Part of me would like to just get the other boob off and leave it at that. What do those of you who have had recon think of your new boobs? Was it worth it and are you happy? Is there anything you would have done differently? I want to hear the good, the bad and the ugly!! x Jane
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Posted by Jrova on 09 Jan 2012, 02:46AM
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Hi Jane
Glad to hear you are feeling good, sorry can't help you with reconstruction advice, just wanted to say that I'm happy things are going well for you.
Good luck with all you have ahead of you.
Love reading your blogs, you always see the funny side of things,
Much love Penny xx
Hi there Penny
Thanks for your kind words, you're a sweetie! I love your blogs too because they remind me of how I was the first time I had treatment. Everything freaked me out the first time, but now I just laugh at most things. Even my two girls make fun of my bald head and hot flushes. They even suggested I wear a pirate patch over my missing boob, little buggers! I guess they're not scared because they saw me go through it all last time, followed by 9 years of good health. We all just assume the same thing will happen again this time (it bloody better!) I know this sounds terrible, but I had a laugh when you wrote about your daughter losing her license! It reminded me of my girls and what pains in the arse they can be sometimes. I was a shocker as a teenager, so I guess it's just payback. I hope your treatment is going smoothly and you're not feeling too horrendous! All the best xx Jane
Karma??
Karma for what I did to my mum as a teenager you think??? ha ha ha....I can laugh about it now. So wasn't laughing at the time. Yeah I think I'm learning not to take myself so seriously anymore, and not be so freaked out. Back for Chemo 4 on Thursday. xx
Don't get me wrong; there's nothing wrong with getting freaked out! It's such a scary time. I just got so sick of feeling frightened all the time. My psychologist once asked me why I was so petrified of all things breast cancer related, but not scared of being killed in a car crash or getting some other type of disease? He pointed out that we are surounded by potential dangers everyday and worrying about them doesn't do anything except make us feel bad. That made a lot of sense to me, so I made a conscious effort to think of the cancer as a small part of my life, and not the main focus. Maybe my attitude is a little like being in denial, but who cares? I just want to be happy and not controlled by dread. Healthy mind, healthy body? I hope so!!
Good luck for your next chemo; how many do you have after this one?
ovaries
Hi Jrova,
I have just started on Tamoxifen and my oncologist has not mentioned anything about "the dangers of ovaries",I have had no testing to see if I am menapausal but have not had periods since chemo. I know everyone's cancer's are a bit different but wonder what you were told about why you should do this?
Thanks.
Julia
Hi Julia44,
I saw the specialist about having the ovaries removed, and all I could gather from her was that there would definitely be no more periods or hormones produced, so permanent menopause was assured, as well as not having to take Tamoxifen for the rest of the 5 years because there would be no hormones to block. But I was concerned about removal of the ovaries because it would be more surgery after the lumpectomy, and I hadn't looked into the pros and cons of the op.( Like, don't we need the ovaries in later life to regulate our bodies in other ways?)I too havent had a period since finishing chemo in July 2011, and the hot flushes from the Tamoxifen effect are manageable but not overly pleasant! But what choice do we have in this situation?
Hi Julia
The whole thing about having my ovaries removed came up because I have had two eostrogen positive cancers 9 years apart, despite having tamoxifen for five years between the two cancers. My eostrogen has been super high for ages and was giving me heavy periods that made me anaemic and uterine polyps that had to be removed twice. Because my two cancers were at ages 34 and 43, my oncologist wanted to get my eostrogen levels down dramatically and she doesn't know if my chemo induced menopause will be permanent. Hence my ovaries need to go. It never would have been an issue if I hadn't got breast cancer the second time. I think my oncologist thought I needed something drastic to try and prevent a third cancer. I hope my explanation makes sense. All the best xx Jane
Hi Jane
Sorry can't help either with recon. I too have not had any periods and very few light hot flushes. I'm hoping that I'll go through menopause while I'm on Tamoxifen or have had having just finished chemo. I start Tamoxifen on Thurs and am a little scared of the side effects. Glad to hear you are feeling good.
Take care and keep us informed. Thinking of you.
Love Alison xx
Hi Jane
I know that Arimidex is of course not Tamoxifen (how clever of me), but (as many lovely ladies on here can attest to) I was petrified about starting Arimidex. I stressed for such a long time and dreaded the day I had to start. I actually stood at the bench with my tablets in front of me, and I could take every other tablet but left the Arimidex! It wasn't until about five minutes later that I could actually put the tablet to my mouth, after having abused it loudly. It is now six weeks since I began taking a tablet that, to me, was going to cause horrendous side effects to my already traumatised mind and body, but I am very fortunate to be one of the lucky ones that has suffered no side effects. The first couple of days I was a little nauseaus and had a few headaches but they were quickly stopped in their tracks by a couple of Panadol. Now I don't even get the headaches. I introduced a calcium tablet and a vitamin D tablet for my bones (just in case) but I feel wonderful, I actually think that since I introduced the calcium I don't have the aches in my legs that I used to have.
Try not to worry too much about taking Tamoxifen. I won't say "think positive" as us ladies don't like that terminolody very much, but hopefully you might be lucky like me don't get the side effects, I hope you are, but I do understand your concerns. A lady I met along the way who started on Tamoxifen just before I started on Arimidex, has also had no side effects. I guess in the grand scheme of things we really don't have a choice do we, we have to do everything we can to beat this mongrel of a thing and we will!
I wish you well, let us know how you go.
Dale
Hi Dale
I'm not worried about tamoxifen because I've already had five years of it from 2002 - 2007 when I had my first bout of bc. This time around I'm having femara. My oncologist said I couldn't take tamoxifen for another five years anyway. I remember not wanting to start on the tamoxifen back in '02 for the same reasons as you. I was scared of it. This time around, I'm not so scared anymore. I've been through chemo twice, radiation once, surgeries and tamoxifen. Femara should be ok after all of that! Thanks for the tip about the calcium and vitamin D. I'll definitely get onto those too. xx Jane
Hi Alison
I didn't get any bad side effects when I had tamoxifen from 2002- 2007. All through my first lot of chemo in 2002 and the tamoxifen I never even missed a period! Thank goodness the chemo pushed me into menopause this time around, because I couldn't take the femara if it hadn't. I never thought I'd be happy to be in menopause at 44, but my priorities are all different nowadays! Like you, I went out today and forgot my hat! It's so damn hot in Perth isn't it? Good luck on the tamoxifen; I hope it all goes smoothly for you. xx Jane
Hi Jane
Just wondering. When you mentioned Perth does that mean you live in Perth? If you do would you like you meet up one day. I'm finding it hard meeting people who have been through the same thing and understand.
Good luck with your recon. and thanks for the advice on tamoxifen. After my day out on Sunday I was absolutely shattered yesterday. Overdid it I think. the fatique really hit me and I spent the day virtually on the couch!! I still have a long way to go I think to get back to some kind of normality. I don't think I realised how weak my body was!
Take care,
Alison xx
Hi Alison
Just thought I'd jump in and tell you my tips for Tamoxifen.I mean,we are all different but it doesn't hurt to gather opinions. I use 'Genox"brand because I found it the most tolerable.I was given another brand by my chemist once and omg,it was dreadful- broke out in a face rash and had awful headache.My friend also experienced this too and even my surgeon said Genox seems to be more agreeable. The other tip is to just take half a tablet for the first few days to ease it into your system.The most common problems are hot flushes,mood swings,fluid retention,weight gain and sleepless nights.I got all of those initially but only mildly.Sometimes it all settles after a few months.If it doesn't then there are other medications that can help.I take a very low dose of Endep 10mg which helps with mood,sleep and hot flushes.Here's hoping you are one of the lucky ones,like my friend,who has no side effects whatsoever.
Tonya xx
Tamoxifen
Great advice thanks Tonya! I'll try 1/2 tablet to start with. Was this ok with your oncologist? I've been really lucky so far with chemo and hot flushes but I think this might be when they make their presence felt!! I'm only 47 but I'd rather go through menopause now rather than later. I'm hoping I'm one of the lucky ones and it isn't too bad. I'm not sure what's going on with my body at times. I haven't had a period at all since starting chemo ( not since I had my second Mirena put in 3 years ago!). The joys!!
Take care,
Alison xxx
Hi Alison
Yes, I'm in Perth! South of the river. I'd love to meet up whenever you like. xx Jane
Great!
We will have to meet sometime these holidays before they finish. Great news! Looking forward to meeting you. I'll send you my email through the contacts. Take care, Alison xx
reconstruction
glad you are feeling good, hope i get to feel that good at the end of treatment,i had both removed after 2nd diagnoses and had deip flap surgery using my belly, they even told me to put on a bit more weight, a 1st for that. only had minor complications, but am very happy with the shape, just not alot of feeling, but am only 3 months along, said it would take 6 months to settle, hubby is very amazed they look so good, makes me feel better. it is a scary ride, i was terrified of it at the time, but feel better now, hope all goes well, be thinking of you.
Hi Strawbs
Wow, that's just the sort of feedback I was hoping for! I'd like to have the same recon as you; after researching on the internet, the diep one sounds like it would suit me best. You said you've been diagnosed twice; how far apart? My two tumours were 9 years apart. I had a lumpectomy the first time and that cancer never came back. The second one was a new one with different pathology. Being in the same breast I had no choice but to have a mastectomy. I'm only 44, and since I plan to live to 100 (lol) I think I need to get some good new boobs! Thanks again for replying. xx Jane
reconstruction
my 1st diagnoses was 2004, i am 46 now, had lumpectomy last one and like you this was a different cancer, even though i had radiation on the right side ,rebuild was best on that side. This one was in the left, but both were caught just before the late stage, though this one is a grade 3, so after speaking with the surgeon, did not have much choice. I am in Victoria and have gone through the public system, the nurses that looked after me were terrific, so that did help, as after the operation was groggy for a couple of days. Am seeing the peter mac hospital in Feb, as we have a large famliy history, all had masectomy's, am hoping that with the treatments of today i will get to see grandchildren.The breast care nurses also came in to visit everyday to check all was okay, as not many of the patients have had this surgery, most have had the tram flap.Also had a great plastic surgeon, who likes women to feel happy about themselves and had plenty of time to discuss any problems, hope you find a good surgeon,take care